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Posted by aoctavio on 2005-11-08 12:39:39 PDT | Permalink
Filename: rendezvous20_04.mov | Tags: F1

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100% PURE Driving Filmmaking Art never have I been on edge like this. inspirational on a bunch of levels.

Posted by Brian (racetech@comcast.net ) on 2005-11-10 12:43:14 PDT

oldie but goodie:D...some F1 champ doin tha drivin there, cant remember his name...drivin a ferrari i recall though:)

Posted by yuppin (uyy@hju.com ) on 2005-11-11 12:53:18 PDT

This is a fake - top speed was max 60 Kph. Turn of the sound and you'll see what I mean.

Posted by Huggy (none@yet.no ) on 2005-11-12 08:48:32 PDT

huggy!! you don`t have a clue!!

Posted by magnus (amg3.4@online.no ) on 2005-11-12 11:00:50 PDT

I don't think it's fake. I mapped out the route using AutoRoute (the European version of Streets and Trips) and Google Earth. He drove just over 10.1 km (about 6.28 miles) and at his fastest (as he was approching the Arc de Triomphe) he was doing about 132 kph, or roughly 82 mph. However if you look at how far he drove and the amount of time it took him, he really only averaged about 80 kph, or roughly 50 mph. So I don't think it's fake at all, I think the proximity of the camera to the ground creates an illusion of greater speed.

Posted by Jason (jason_coon1@hotmail.com ) on 2005-11-12 11:57:21 PDT

Yeah i must agree to some extent with huggy, he does go past other cars fairly slow and turning the sound of does make this more accurate, but aswell you have to look at the speed he goes past traffic lights etc. Plus on several turns the car does seem to skid.

Posted by Andrew (jer0w1tz@hotmail.co.uk ) on 2005-11-14 10:41:46 PDT

Not fake. Look at the age of the cars in the film -all 1970's models. Also, that would have been fast in its day.

Posted by matthew (Europhiled_forever@hotmail.com ) on 2005-11-14 15:17:15 PDT

asdasd

Posted by erol (erolegemen@hotmail.com http://erolegemen.com) on 2005-11-16 08:40:44 PDT

Filmed in 1976, the revered short film by seminal French director Claude Lelouch is regarded as the ultimate in chase scenes - the connoisseurs’ trump card in response to "Bullitt" or "The French Connection" Rendezvous is absolutely compulsive viewing: an astonishing, exhilarating and now legendary drive through 70s Paris with a surprise ending that has become shrouded in myths: Was Lelouch really arrested when it was first shown? Was it a Formula 1 driver and Ferrari 275/GTB? How was it filmed without blocking off streets? What we do know is that there were no special effects, no speeding-up of the film or blocking-off the streets. Lelouch simply mounted the camera on the front of the car and captured a death-defying drive through the beautiful streets of 70s Paris with a striking twist at the journey’s end. The ‘soundtrack’ is just as pure: the brutal wail of the engine, squealing tires and the roar of the exhaust. http://www.dukevideo.com/Cars/DVD/Road%20cars/High%20Performance/Rendezvous%20DVD.aspx

Posted by Kyrre (kyrre@kyrre.net http://www.kyrre.net) on 2005-11-16 12:06:30 PDT

It's not a fake. I saw an interview of Lelouch years after he made this movie. He's the one driving the car (he used to be a good amateur rallye pilot). Streets were not blocked (the dump truck was not planned, for instance). The only thing that was arranged was that he had a buddy at the intersection of Rue de Rivoli when the cars comes from the Louvre to warn him of any incoming traffic because it was a completely blind corner. He wasn't arrested when the movie was released but he got a nice little chat with the police. A transcript of the interview is available of the french Wikipedia (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/C'était_un_rendez-vous). Also I'm not sure he was driving a Ferrari, I think I remember he had a Porsche. Finally, there is something that people who have never been in Paris should know, especially those of you who live in America where streets are often very wide, all flat and built on a grid system. The streets in Paris are completely different: crooked, narrow, windy, blind intersections, cobblestones etc... I used to drive a 650cc motorcyle through Paris and I often went the same path as Lelouch did in his movie because I was living near Montmartre, where the film ends. I was also young and stupid and it became almost a game for me to try and make it each time a little faster. Well, let me tell you folks, what Lelouch accomplished really is COMPLETELY NUTS!

Posted by Pierre (pierre@photobiker.com http://www.photobiker.com) on 2005-11-17 20:02:30 PDT

Another crazy video is the one from the Prince Noir, the guy who drove around the Périphérique in Paris in 11 minutes, with top speeds of 155mph (250 k/h): http://www.zone-videos.net/video-photo/video.php?action=file&id=494

Posted by Pierre (pierre@photobiker.com http://www.photobiker.com) on 2005-11-17 20:28:09 PDT

It'a a great fake....

Posted by Dario (dario.online@libero.it ) on 2005-11-18 09:01:15 PDT

if he was going at 200km/h, the ather veicles were going at 160! it's a greate fake.. like ronaldinho..

Posted by Dynamic (giacomoconti2004@libero.it ) on 2005-11-18 09:33:07 PDT

In italy this is darly...140Km/h during night, and many other, this is nothing :D

Posted by itwt (fghj@msn.com ) on 2005-11-18 11:44:36 PDT

good

Posted by gg (gg@lbet.dm ) on 2005-11-18 12:57:15 PDT

I seriously doubt that its a fake. I couldn't tell what kind of car it was, my first impression was that it was a Porsche but maybe Ferrari's sounded like that in the 70s. I thought there would be more traffic in Paris. Such a sweet video.

Posted by David (hallam95@telus.net ) on 2005-11-18 14:48:14 PDT

minchiate...

Posted by pippo (pippo@pippo.com ) on 2005-11-18 14:56:20 PDT

i think it's not a fake, but the driver is'nt Ickx, or Lafitte, but probably the bigger J.P.Beltoise, in the last time of the video. Sorry for my english, Valerio

Posted by Valerio (valerio.anna@libero.it ) on 2005-11-18 15:12:07 PDT

The top speed was 220k/h (136mph) but I find the climb towards Clichy and Montmartre more impressive, even though it was at a slower speed. You can get all the data on http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2005/Rendezvous.shtml

Posted by Pierre (pierre@photobiker.com http://www.photobiker.com) on 2005-11-18 15:49:29 PDT

my father had a ferrari 275 gtb4, I will show this video to him and he'll tell me if the sound is or not really like that ferrari.

Posted by david (ans@ddd.it ) on 2005-11-18 18:35:38 PDT

che gran cagata!!

Posted by franz (giulia.milanese@tin.it ) on 2005-11-18 23:50:30 PDT

e i parigini dove sono?

Posted by roberto (roberto.tamborini@libero.it ) on 2005-11-19 00:13:56 PDT

vado meglio io in macchina

Posted by roberto (roberto.tamborini@libero.it ) on 2005-11-19 00:15:21 PDT

non male, visto la macchina ("facile" da guidare)e l'anno...ma c'è di meglio (o peggio)

Posted by valerio (casa.ricci@alice.it ) on 2005-11-19 00:46:30 PDT

e' come la lazio.... na cagata!!!

Posted by paolo (paolo_ur@libero.it ) on 2005-11-19 01:03:00 PDT

Huggy, Maybe you are confusing it with your old 2CV, who sounded like that at 15 MPH

Posted by Vinny1 time (vincemacri@hotmail.com ) on 2005-11-20 19:13:23 PDT

Does someone want to translate what it says at the end into English for me? Please?...

Posted by David (themysteryman@gmail.com ) on 2005-11-20 21:45:57 PDT

non vi va mai bene niente, stronzi! provateci voi!

Posted by andrea (aiscois@gmail.com ) on 2005-11-21 15:04:44 PDT

-> David Translation: It was a "rendez-vous" filmed by Claude Lelouch.

Posted by Peubi (t@t.fr ) on 2005-11-23 00:08:56 PDT

Well..in the 70's maybe it was possible to have a ride in that way across Paris..today it's seems to me a little bit harder... I do not know if the video was true or fake. I only think that with a wise fox like Lelouche behind the camera everything is possible (especially to create fakes).

Posted by Lorenzo (lo.sc@tele2.it ) on 2005-11-23 09:34:21 PDT

Non capite una mazza. Non è un falso. Provate voi nel 76 a guidare una ferrari in mezzo a una città. anke se è arrivato al massimo a 135 Km/h è già tanto. Provate voi a passare a 100 all'ora un incrocio col rosso! E poi alle 5 di mattina anke Torino è vuota. Ci vuole manico e basta. You don't understand anything. It's not a fake. Think to drive in the 70's a Ferrari in the middle of a city!! Even if the maximum speed is 95 mi/h it's very impressive. Try to cross a red light at 80 mi/h!!! However Turin (Italy) is empty at 5 too. He's a crazy guy.

Posted by Nik (diodofa@libero.it ) on 2005-11-23 11:15:13 PDT

As a keen amateur racing driver with over 25 years of experience (driving mostly touring cars), I believe this is genuine. While the sensation of speed is heightened by the proximity to the ground, I also know the roads he drove, and it is incredible that he convered the distance in such a short time.

Posted by Charlie Morgan (manicdrums@yahoo.com http://www.manicdrums.com) on 2005-11-24 06:54:37 PDT

imbecilli ke cazzo dite ke guida male è un pilota d formula uno d fine anni 70 ke guida giusto x dirvi

Posted by Ricky (dsfaf@yahoo.it ) on 2005-11-24 10:01:38 PDT

Have to be a fake. Mount a camera on the front of a car and as low as you can mount it. Then drive in 200 km/t and see for your self. This camera is mounted pretty low on the car. The lower the camera is mounted the faster it will look. Look at the "Get away from stockholm" movies. THATS real,,,, and F****** fast..

Posted by TA. (toapaul@hotmail.com ) on 2005-11-25 04:29:32 PDT

I've came across this video just before leaving for Paris this summer therefore I have tested personally the roads for curiosity and found that it is interesting. The best comments of all is the one made by the guy here above who has mapped out the route using Google earth. His opinion, as well as mine, have been built upon scientific basis. He drives exactly 10 Km with an average speed of 80 km/h. The two points where he reaches the top speeds are while approaching the Arc de Triomphe, and then when leaving it heading for Place de la Concorde. If you take your chronometer and measure the time of this second point (from the very beginning of the road to the final traffic light before getting inside Place de la Concorde)you will see that he covers that 2 Km in approx. 60 seconds...which makes 120 Km/h. Assuming that the car was continuosly accelerating and that he had to lift his foot once to manage a potentially danger situation, I think that the top speed was a little over 120 Km/h...(that is what already stated above). The film is genuine that's the only truth...no 250 Km/h at all, but a small trick to put the camera near the ground makes the sense of greater speed. What it is questionable is the car used. We have no hint apart from the sound...but it's too difficult to recognize such sound. Could be a Ferrari or a Porsche or a Lamborghini...why not. Also you can hear "strange" sound...acceleration and braking at the same time (the moment I'm talking about is when he drives through Quai des Tuileries and overtakes the white Renault 4. I know that accelerating and braking at the same time is quite normal in Rally..but there something strange... Finally, but this only my opinion, is that I don't think you must be a F1 driver to perform a ride like that. As far as I can see he didn't suffer too much of traction problems (oversteering) while accelereting and that makes me think that probably he was not on edge (as a F1 driver could do). Of course one has to be crazy to risk his own and others' lives in that way...anyway my compliments Monsieur Lelouch.

Posted by Axxe (top@hotmail.com ) on 2005-11-25 14:37:31 PDT

A.T. explains it best, fast but not faster than 120Km/hr and the sound is dubbed in - this is bottom line. The only thing I can add is the fact that this is not a (air cooled) Porsche. I've driven all those cars and can differentiate some general sounds. The sound of a 1976-era Porsche is very much different and this sounds like more cylinders than 6 or 8. (When we're talking Can AM cars, it still could be a Porsche but that is too far sought). In my opinion this is a V12 with a manual trans and the Ferrari story sounds about right. But other V12s can be substituted for that name, just not a Porsche. Does not take away the adrenaline rush a car guy like me gets is still awesome!

Posted by Maurice (silverthunder@socal.rr.com ) on 2005-11-26 17:56:31 PDT

Wow, that was amazing! Why can't Hollywood car chases be more like that? I wish I could drive like that guy... Without going to jail.

Posted by Neil (novelhead@myway.com http://novelhead.blogspot.com/) on 2005-11-29 15:50:25 PDT

This is such an obvious fake, I can´t even start to understand why one would think otherwise. Listen to the gear changes... How many gears were there in ANY car made in 1976? Well, since the first car with a six-speed gearbox was manufactured in 1986 (Porsche 959) we can assume that the gearbox that we hear is not from that era. So, the guy drives through Paris pretty fast, passing redlights, driving on the other side of the road. Yep. Is he driving faster than 100-120 km/h? Nah, don´t think so. Is it a Ferrari? Probably not, given the fact that it doesn´t go that fast. But hey, opinions are like assholes...

Posted by Peter (peter@hotmail.com ) on 2005-11-29 17:58:00 PDT

i agree with the comment 'asdasd'

Posted by asdasd (asdasd@asdasd.com ) on 2005-11-30 08:45:27 PDT

So many assholes here. 1 - the video is genuine. 2 - lelouch is not the driver 3 - the pilot is Jacques Lafitte (f1 car driver) 4 - yes it's a ferrari. now all you assholes go crying with your mummy to let you drive her car

Posted by orlando (3wuuijd6gmlu402@jetable.com ) on 2005-11-30 11:24:23 PDT

Those of you who don't think this is real have been playing too many video games. That is a five speed transmission and a 10 or 12 cylinder engine. It takes a lot of power to go that fast. In the 70's these cars were loud and rough. It gets darker as the film progresses so he carefully chose a time when the streets would be quiet. WOW>

Posted by Xytar (wellinhand@hotmail.com http://www.morethanrelaxation.com) on 2005-11-30 11:36:02 PDT

Well, guys.. this is 2005.. that might have been awesome in 70's, but today this is granny driving.. Wanna se fast? see all Getaway in Stockholm movies.. ;) First and second ones are my favs.. :D Well,that's my 2c.. Cheers

Posted by Raygun (skurtovi@online.no ) on 2005-11-30 14:23:50 PDT

http://aoctavio.castpost.com/rendezvous20_04.mov This is a fantastic piece of footage. Great driving.

Posted by Thomas S Wrobel (Darkflame@gmail.com ) on 2005-11-30 16:43:03 PDT

The visuals are real, of course. The sound is not from the ride, I'm sure. And the car was probably a Peugeot or Citroen with nice, soft suspension. Just look how smooth the ride is... And knowing how stupid pidgeons are, the car did not travel fast allowing all the birds survive... And shock, he ran a green light! :-)

Posted by colombo (colombo@email.com ) on 2005-12-01 14:24:06 PDT

Anyone thinking it`s fake just posted that because he/she is the ultimate loser. Your sad little life isn`t what others want to experience.

Posted by Roger (Yuppinasshole@aol.com ) on 2005-12-01 19:27:25 PDT

this short by lelouch was called "Rendeveus" and played as a short in art movie houses for many years. The driver is Lelouch, its totally real. notice all the red lights he runs.

Posted by rob (beaky777@msn.com ) on 2005-12-02 13:19:51 PDT

We're not debating if the footage is real: clearly it is. The debate is whether the alleged top speeds are accurate, and my personal opinion is that they are not legitimate. I have driven race courses and open roads-- rally style-- at upwards of 140mph/220kph in both cars and on motorcycles, and there is no way that the car in this video is going any faster than about 60-70mph/120kph at top speed. The film is definitely fun to watch, but the car just ain't going all that fast...

Posted by miscdebris (nope@nope.com ) on 2005-12-02 19:11:20 PDT

F1s dont have headlights. FAKE

Posted by richie (user@privacy.org http://www.none.org) on 2005-12-03 13:42:25 PDT

Rob: 120 Km/h was _pretty_ fast in the 70's, google for some prestanda of sports cars in that age, you'll find they're not the 320 KM/h machines we got today. And remember; the closer to the ground you are, the faster everything seems. Try filming out of the car yourself, going 60 KM/h can seem fast if the cam's low enough. Magnus's breakdown of the time/speed using Autoroute and Google seem to hold water. Have you ever driven in European cities? Most have really narrow streets, tight corners and bad roads :) A 70's sports car was not the electronics-laden grandma-mobiles they are now either - Basically, they're four wheels, brakes and an engine. That's it. What car have you driven, rally style? And where? I too can boast of having driven my trusty '83 Accord 1.6 at 180 Km/h, but that was on the fucking autobahn!

Posted by JazzmasterCurious (jazzmastercurious@gmail.com ) on 2005-12-03 16:56:34 PDT

All I can say is that I wish I was fortunate enough to drive a Ferrari thru Paris like that. Awesome video and I'm sure an even more awesome experience.

Posted by Giovanni (me@here.com http://http:ilechoo.com) on 2005-12-04 23:53:02 PDT

j'ai fait un meilleur temps avec mon scooter !

Posted by faker (dirtybrad11@hotmail.com ) on 2005-12-05 03:07:43 PDT

the streets of Paris 1976. Ferrari 275 GTB. Link to physics data on movie: http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2005/Rendezvous.shtml Review: Quote: It is the early morning in the Paris of the nineteen-seventies. A driver heads up the Champs Elysées in his unseen car at dangerous speed, and proceeds to rush through the streets of the city slowing down as little as possible. What's the hurry? C'était un Rendez-vous was a film that became the stuff of legend for many years. Consisting of the view from the front of a sports car, director Claude Lelouch apparently strapped a camera on the vehicle and left it running as the car speeds along the city highways and back alleys. Lasting just under ten minutes, it feels shorter, such is the incredible momentum of the action, mesmerising the viewer with the images zipping by. Not only is the film itself legendary, but stories have grown up around it, too. Is it true that Lelouch was arrested on its first showing in a Parisian cinema for dangerous driving? After all, the evidence is there and plain to see. And just who was the mysterious driver - Lelouch himself, or a famed Formula One racing star, understandably wishing to remain anonymous? Some say the man behind the wheel is an Italian taxi driver. And what make is the car, anyway? It must be an expensive sports model, judging by the thunderous noise of the engine. That roaring engine is all you hear throughout; well, that and the odd beep of an indignant car horn. From the sight of the Arc de Triomphe gradually looming larger on the screen to the less well known streets that the driver ends up in, you're riveted. He ignores every red light, narrowly avoids more than one fellow road user, and even mounts the pavement to get around a large vehicle blocking his way - pedestrians beware. And let's not mention the sundry pigeons who risk life and winged limb by being in the wrong place (i.e. the middle of the road) at the wrong time.

Posted by JFK (jfk10128@aol.com ) on 2005-12-05 13:11:59 PDT

Great ride along- It doesn't matter exactly how fast he was going- He was hauling ass for the road condition, size and the fear of the unknown. I was sitting on the edge of my desk chair-

Posted by gft (thomasgft@aol.com ) on 2005-12-07 20:07:13 PDT

Where does it claim that he's going 250 kph? Why do people call it a fake because he's "only" driving 120? Do I sense some bitterness, or is it mere francophobia? For knowing these streets very well, this is quite impressive. There are a lot of very tight turns and blind corners there. And I'd be surprised if Lelouch didn't take at least some precautions to not hurt anyone.

Posted by Axel (aestable@sbcglobal.net ) on 2005-12-07 23:17:46 PDT

I think the video is real of course, the sound does seem terribly dubbed though. Yes it was impressive, especially for the time, Yes it was some mad driving at points, but no it is not that fast by todays standards.

Posted by markodude (fibreoptic@hotmail.com ) on 2005-12-08 06:27:07 PDT

woteva, its a good vid so get over it, sounds ok to me, the speed maybe a concern to some of you but none of you have the balls to do the drive yourself only by google, harden up and do your own movie

Posted by tb (tommyb69@optusnet.com.au ) on 2005-12-08 15:46:16 PDT

Tu parle francais....je vie sur le route montmarte et ce bien claire que cette video ne pa faux. Et si tu parle francais le francais sont mieux que les americane. Bon Merci. Chow

Posted by Joe (www.joe@aol.com ) on 2005-12-09 15:14:55 PDT

tu n'as pas mentionner la vitesse de cette automobile. est ce que c'est vrai tout cela ou quoi?

Posted by alaa (nonya@alfredo.com http://nonya) on 2005-12-11 14:34:37 PDT

It is real, the sound is probably dubbed, but it is a great video. The only problem I had with the movie is that the pedestrians did not seem concerned. I would have reacted to a screaming ferrari about to hit me, if it actually sounded like it does.

Posted by Chris (ryancox10@aol.com ) on 2005-12-12 00:34:51 PDT

I believe knowledge that they used big Mercedes, the noise of the motor comes from Ferrari IIRC, assisting it by Lelouch, Elie Chouraqui, was posted in one very critical of course because without visibility (the arcades of Louvre). He had to give information by walkie-talkie take in the car on traffic but according to Lelouch, the talkie did not walk! The driver would be Jacques Lafitte, pilot of F1. The speed of the car is difficult in estimated (camera raz on the soil)!

Posted by buzzy (q4czd64n38u569p@jetable.com ) on 2005-12-13 08:03:18 PDT

Geez. Hard to believe we've reached a point of such incredulity. This is a well known movie in sportscar circles and absolutely genuine. I don't think Lelouch ever claimed speeds of 250kmh; if he did it's rubbish. BUT the film is real and done without closing off streets. It is not necessary to be an F1 driver to accomplish this type of driving but one does need to be a little insane. Regarding some of the other comments above... it's hard to believe some people can be so obtuse: first WTF are you talking about Richie, it's not an F1 it's a (probably) street Ferrari. second it sounds like a Ferrarri but could be nothing more than the 308 (beautiful, affordable and underpowered for a Ferrari - Magnum PI car for sportscar n00bs), third it is EASY to mount a camera a mere 6-8" above the road off the front of a car and drive speeds in excess of 100mph. I've done it recently at laguna seca racetrack and it's been done *hundreds* of times at tracks across the world. Footnote. I first saw this movie in 1978 and fell in love with it. I've seen it many times since and as mentioned above it's called Rendezvous.

Posted by Jed (laugh@farts.com ) on 2005-12-17 16:50:21 PDT

Please would one of you tell me where I can buy a DVD of this in the UK. P.S. As sure is obvious haven't seen it but still feel compelled to say that really don't get the 'purist/authentic' postings especially as have yet to see anything that states the director claimed it was 100% real. If so and as like myself have to believe the sound/visuals of a high performance car 'on the street' does it for you -- why not just enjoy for rest assured very soon will only be possible to (truly) fake such stuff

Posted by Daud Power (daud@daudpower.com ) on 2005-12-18 17:12:47 PDT

Beautiful movie. Amazing setting and an brilliant concept. I'm not sure it was ever claimed the car was doing the speeds the geeks have tried to disprove, but it's essentially not all that relevant. The car is moving too fast for pedestrian streets to be anywhere near safe for pedestrians or driver, and I'm not sure there's all that manny people out there today who could drive through paris at anything around that speed, through those streets and blind corners with such a result, especially with whatever machine it was done in, Ferrari, Porsche or Merc. Who cares. Its an awesome movie, and i'd sure as hell love to drive through Paris in a Ferrari... so anyone out there who wants to give me a go... i promise i won't even do 200km/hr... please?

Posted by Julian Simpson (mosaic@london.com ) on 2005-12-19 11:48:07 PDT

oh... and it definitely wasn't done in an old peugeot or citroen - there's not enough body roll. Old pug's are brilliant, amazing handling... but tend to roll at those speeds. I've pushed quite a few to their limits myslef. did i mention it's an awesome movie?

Posted by Julian Simpson (mosaic@london.com ) on 2005-12-19 11:51:37 PDT

Wow, thanks for posting this Lelouche short! (Clearly, he didn't appreciate red lights or stop signs. haha) I was looking for this since an ex-girlfriend from Montreal showed this to me on VHS few years ago here in L.A.... You may consider uploading to http://video.google.com, also. Cheers, Kam

Posted by KT (kamalesh.thakker@gmail.com ) on 2005-12-20 20:35:46 PDT

Claude Lelouch thoughts on filming it... < http://www.lovefilm.com/static.php?tpl=rendevous >

Posted by KT (kamalesh.thakker@gmail.com http://www.lovefilm.com/static.php?tpl=rendevous) on 2005-12-20 21:09:22 PDT

thank u merry x-mas

Posted by rwk (rwk@adelphia.net ) on 2005-12-22 21:18:36 PDT

a un moment il a failli toucher une vielle :) vers les 3/4

Posted by gerard de suresnes (alaindonielli@hotmail.com http://www.suresnes.tk) on 2005-12-23 13:53:05 PDT

I've had the occasion to talk to Lelouch after the screening of his last film in Paris (le genre humain). Not much talk since he doesn't know me but enough though. According to him he's the guy in the car (of which I don't doubt since he made some rallye races in his youth) but the sound is definitely dubbed (obvious when he starts climbing on Montmartre : you can hear a mixing transition, the accelerating noise comes from nowhere in a second!) and for a simple reason : his goal with this movie was to thrill the audience and the original soundrack was a) too low and b) not efficient enough (too much slow downs and constant speed in the second half of the movie. Well in 2005 almost 2006 the film looks a bit old (especially after Prince Noir, Ghost Rider and GiS :)) but at that time it was a real performance : as a driver (it remains really hard to do...look at the end of the movie when he doesn't slow down enough in front of that shop...) and as a filmmaker : this is the first European outlaw footage of this kind : he's GiS grand father!!! Anyway the guy himself is a little bit too much nervous and prout in real life.

Posted by Matiou (Oskkar3@laposte.net ) on 2005-12-25 20:10:00 PDT

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Posted by Matiou (Oskkar3@laposte.net ) on 2005-12-25 20:25:06 PDT

For all the folks counting the 'gears' try and remember that that type of "toe and heel" driving will often see the driver 'blipping' the throttle on downshifts to keep the revs up. Sometimes he seems to do it a couple of times in one shift to maintain his revs so you're not really counting gears otherwise, yes, this 70's car seems to have about 8 gears at times. Still, bloody amazing! Makes me want to stick on Project Gotham 3 right now and get out and punish some US ass online ;) Or rather get put in the wall by cheats... Awesome stuff though.

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Trick Trick trick. The first long straigth he is simply not driving very fast. It is plain to see, he downbrakes for 1 second and goes directly into the roundabout at only sligthly above speed compared to the freaking scooter. And accelerating for 20 seconds full throttle and still only passing other cars with very low relative speed. I dont care if he is french or an artist or what ever, you were fooled. suckers

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Posted by lou (lou84fr@yahoo.fr ) on 2005-12-29 17:26:14 PDT

What is wrong with people today? Why can't you accept this is a genuine film of someone driving fast through a city in the 70s? Next you'll be telling me the Americans didn't land on the Moon. Are we so risk adverse that we think it impossible that people did things like this 'for real'? There was no CGI, no ILM , to put something on film you had to do it in front of the camera. The French are famously dangerous drivers and Claude gets my respect for having the balls to make this dream he had carried become real. I'll tell you what else I took away from the film; how much of Paris was exactly as it was in the 19th Century. Compare it to London which is a mongrel city of 18th, 19th, 20th and now 21st Century buildings. I guess that's the benefit of surrendering everytime the Germans cough, they don't send the Luftwaffe to redesign your cities for you. BTW, if you don't think that 120k/ph through any city, regardless of the time or day or level of traffic is pant-soilingly dangerous/exciting, may I suggest you try getting off your arse, get away from the xbox and drive in a country where the speed limit isn't 55mph.

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for a good idea of the speeds of the video go here http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2005/Rendezvous.shtml

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I doubt it from the start of the movie...how can u seems to be driving off the tunnel at high speed....and suddenly when the engine sound is turned on...it sounds like the car just started moving on 2nd gear?? Doesnt make sense to me.

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Posted by Titov (tit@ee.ee ) on 2006-01-25 10:37:41 PDT

What a great concept! What a great film! Ok so he's not going as fast as the soundtrack suggests...so what? He's certainly going fast enough round blind bends on standard roads that have not been closed off with enough traffic to make one mistake have serious consequences; I take my hat off to Claude for this film. You won’t ever see something like this again so appreciate it!

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I've heard about this film for years, and I remember a couple of years ago VHS copies were being sold for a hundred bucks. And I just watched it for free! That film rocks so hard! Thank you, internet, thank you Claude, and thank you, person who downloaded and posted this film.

Posted by Nick Macaluso (Nicho.as.Macaluso@roswell.enmu.edu ) on 2006-01-29 13:52:23 PDT

Intresting movie!Intresting opinions.I think Asoce above is real near the truth.The cars with big Delorto or Weber carbs was a lot noisier than today and when he turns left and shift the sound is doubble in some way.My opinion is a smalblock v8 with racecams and big open exhaustpipe on the side.?Tomaso?Ferrari?Cobra?Mustang?Aston? Strange is wathever the speedfeeling sometimes it compares real well with the sound and sometimes not,it must be that simple that when he heads to triumfvelvet it´s more real to speed and even in the end between walls and in tunnels.It´s like in Bullit when Steve Mqueen shifts hundred times and you could hear him doubble pedal and sound from the Detroit locker.Anacronism you can also know that in that movie it was 2 cars one without diff.It´´s something between good movie with a good reason why to be in such a hurry!

Posted by Mike (mild@chello.se ) on 2006-01-30 11:58:05 PDT

Anyone else spot reflections of blue flashing lights in windows and bus shelters, see other cars move out of the way before he overtakes etc. Strap a camera to the front of a police car et voila. The footage has not been sped up, but the sound is entirely unrelated. Definitely a V12, almost certainly a ferrari. The speed at which the revs rise and fall, and the speed of the gearchanges suggest it is a racing engine with a light flywheel.

Posted by Fergus (fergus@frmcintyre.fsnet.co.uk ) on 2006-01-31 13:37:30 PDT

I live in New York and have spent time in Paris. I can tell you--for New Yorkers--that the drive he took was like driving from Coney Island to Downtown Manhattan. Forget the sound. To do this in 8 minutes, even on the highway the whole way, is impossible without serious speed. This is especially true if time has to be made up for speed lost on the small side streets—no-one suggests that he sustained 200kph, only that he approached it. Consider also that he takes him 35 seconds to drive from the first traffic circle to l'Arc. As for the traffic: even today in Paris at dusk on a Sunday morning the traffic is this light. I've seen it. Sound, passing traffic, V12, V8, gear shifting...whatever. 8 minutes is 8 minutes and 8 minutes for a 25 minute trip is fast. In any case this was fun to watch. By the way, Nazirull, I think the gear out of the tunnel was more like 4th. It sounds about right, but you may have a good point.

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Salut les tapettes ! Je suis Claude Lelouche. Alors, ça vous embouche un coin cette vidéo, bande de pédales ! Si vous parvenez à faire moins de 8 minutes sur le même parcours, je vous paye une Ferrari !

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Posted by Dave (no@way.com ) on 2006-02-11 12:45:48 PDT

Hello guys Just an information from Lellouch himself: he was driving some mercedes (it's own-I do not remember the model) and dubbed the sound with a ferrari engine. I agree that it is something spectacular, even today, looking at the parisian streets. The only think we can reproch him is that it was really dangerous.

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I had a teacher show us this film when I lived in Paris. I was in fifth grade and it was the only time the class sat speechless. So this was in 1980, I guess a few years after the original, and it was film, not video. And I thought the car was a Renault5 TurboII, the cool one with the wider tires in the rear. Still not sure. Great film

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You would think this was all settled by now. The movie was a senstion in 1977 at a film festive.Canne's, I f memory serves. It was on PBS a litte Google "Etait un Rendezvous" and you can find fact and fiction enough to go on forever. I've seen and listened to 275 GTB's raced at Sebring, which I attended 1964 -1973. I've been up close and personal with a running GTB at a Concours here in Chicago, the owners had $75,000 in it and it was worth $6million at the time (1980's). So the movie car is La Louch's 1966 GTB / 2 from the sound alone, by my lights. La Louch has said many things about his movie, at differant times, not all in agreement....he want's to leave some things to the imagination, I think. Clean DVD;s and VHS tapes are available online, new. Intrigue and controversy sells merchandise!! I think Occam's Razor should be applied here. ie: the simplist answer is the correct one. The route map of Rendezvous can be found online, and some students have figured out his actual speeds at various points, based on segmented time distance calculations , fom GPS data. If memory serves he averages about 75-80mph for the run, and never exceeds 110mph. Or about 6,000 rpm except for the missed shifts, fitting for the sohc 3.3 litre Columbo designed V-12 engine. The race style quick change transaxle on these cars could easily have the final drive ratio changed for a lower top speed and better accelleration than Lemans gearing, 165mph in top (5th) gear. There was a time when it was common for earlier Ferrari 250 GT road car owners to have the axle ratio changed for road driving....particularly here in the U.S. Not many people can really drive well above 140mph for extended periods. GTB's were designed to beat the A.C. Cobra Coupes. A GTB (C) took 3rd over all, 1st in GT at Lemans 1965, 1st in Gt 1966 and 1st in GT, 1967 GTB (C) cars had aluminium bodies. 12 were built over the years. the duck tail spoiler is much more pronounced than on the (970+) steel bodied cars and there are no bumper flares. The (C) cars also had huge flip off gas caps...no interior to speak of...racing cars!! The movie cars stereo mikes are either inside or on the sidesof the car It would be hard to dub in the echoes of objects passed in the run. There is NO wind noise....TRY a helmet cam on a Bike or in a Radical SR-3 / 4...nothing but wind noise, unless you know how to mask it. Learn SOMETHING about "Pre-visualization" and "Post-Production" of cinema work. J.C.

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It is a Ferrari 275 GTB. That is a definite. A Porsche? Yeah right.......Why not a Hemi Cuda? It's a Ferrari V-12, kids. This film is legendary. It is humorous to read all of the speculation & doubts....A very good way to encourage interest in it for sure. Some good posts though. I especially enjoyed the most recent post.

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The car was a Mercedes 450 SEL 6.9 - there are actual photos of this being set up by Lelouch. Lelouch did own a 275GTB4 and this, combined with the fact that he refused to talk about the film, is probably why the Ferrari rumours were developed. Lelouch has gone on record saying that he was the driver. The sound is pretty obviously dubbed, as Lelouch has also stated. That hardly makes it a fake though - driving the highest performance sedan of the period at those kind of speeds around Paris, without permission, is still awesome. Parisian streets are labarinthine. The fact that it was done at dawn in August (Paris's holiday month) is the only way it could be made.

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